Obama seeks to woo nation with historic speech

Zydor,...In an odd way it is the presentation of the global person. Mixed race well traveled and still 100% American. I hope he pulls it off and doesn't slip into the nobility mode.

I hope the guy makes it all the way, he's a remarkable man, a true Leader, the first since Kennedy.

While I like Obama, and for some reason his wife even more, having lived through Camelot experience I hope Barack will have an easier transition to power. JFK and Jackie and the kids were press darlings. Their lives were the stuff of Tragedy. Also though many choose to diminish his presidency, Bill Clinton did something magic in spite of the concerted efforts of Republicans, through Star, tried to drag him down.

I am not sure that you know the meaning of socialism. I understand that it is easy to back socialism the Antichrist and associate that with those you may disagree with. But what are the socialist policies. Better yet what do you understand socialism to be.

cholla, your ignorance is appalling.

Socialism is defined as state control of the means of production and distribution. A socialist agenda would include nationalizing the petroleum industry, the airlines, the auto industry, etc...There actually are socialists among us, there's even a socialist newspaper. There are some Democrats who lean toward socialism. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are not socicalists, not even close. Obama spent 10 years as a college professor teaching and discussing the Constitution of the US. He knows way more about it than GW Bush or McCain.

(Actually my cat knows more about the US constitution than Bush.)

Forget Obama and McCain. WGTODD for President. TOTALLY ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Last three posts jokes on you. The Democrats have decided that in spite of all the provocation they are unified. Fee, Fie, Fo, Fom I smell the blood of...

I cannot understand why people ignore the sleeze that McCain really is.

McCain's only reason for voters to choose him seems to be "he is not Obama."

Let's look at McCain.

McCain cheated on his first wife to marry his 17-year-younger mistress. (why is it bad for John Edwards but okay for McCain?).

McCain was implicated for taking bribes in the Keating Five scandal (google it if you have never heard of it).

McCain graduated 894 out of a class of 899 at the Naval Academy. He did not qualify for West Point. Bottom feeder! And that was when he was still young enough to have all his brain cells. Just what we need, another DUMB president.

McCain voted against women being able to sue their employers if not treated fairly, saying that women "need more training."

McCain voted against contraceptives being covered by insurance but voted FOR Viagra to be covered by insurance. Maybe if it were the other way around, abortion would not be such an issue.

But since it is, oh by the way, McCain is anti-choice. That means he is anti-choice even in cases of rape and incest. He does not trust women to be able to make intelligent decisions.

If America elects this guy, then America will get what it deserves. A war monger who will get us all nuked by Russia.

Let's look at McCain even more:

CNN-Although McCain says he will only support reinstating the draft should there be a World War III, he may be more open to the draft than it seems.

During a July 2006 interview on CNN, McCain was asked about the following statement by Newt Gingrich: "We're in the early stages of what I would describes as the Third World War and, frankly, our bureaucracies aren't responding fast enough. We might need to consider reinstating the draft."

Asked whether he agreed, McCain said:

"I do support reinstating the draft to some extent. I think it's important to recognize that we have terrorist organizations which -- who are dangerous by themselves, are now being supported by radical Islamic governments, i.e., the Iranians, which makes them incredibly more dangerous because they are trained, equipped, motivated and assisted in every way by the Iranians."

And more McCain:

McCain wants to start a war with Iran, Korea, and Russia. Not to mention staying in Iraq "for 100 years."

He cannot do all that with an all-volunteer army.

McCain will bring back the draft.

All of you mothers with sons over the age of 14, be afraid. Be very afraid.

McCain will draft your sons into illegal and immoral wars where they will die for no reason.

Obama wants to negotiate.

McCain will "bomb bomb bomb Iran" first and ask questions later, all the while singing the beach boys Barbara Ann tune.

And last but certainly not least, let's look at how McCain treats his own wife (you know, the one he threw his disabled first wife away for):

McCain called his wife the C word in public. It's in Cliff Schecter's new book The Real McCain. And three reporters verified the incident.

Here's an excerpt:

In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett.

At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there."

McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt."

McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

To prove my above post is true and correct, see this:

According to a transcript of the town hall meeting and a YouTube video, Parrish posed "the question" like this:

"This question goes to mental health and mental health care. Previously, I've been married to a woman that was verbally abusive to me. Is it true that you called your wife a cu#t?"

The room fell silent for several seconds while McCain adjusted his mike and started to answer: "Now, now. You don't want to ...Um, you know, that's the great thing about town hall meetings, sir, but we really don't .... There's people here who don't respect that kind of language. So I'll move on to the next questioner in the back."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-dinsmore/questioner-dragged-out-of_b_99762.html

Rhonda Rahn. All great points amazing how none of this makes the main steam media. If this where Obama it would be on the news 24 hours a day 7 days a week. If this where his history he would never have made it this far and the news channels would be ripping him apart.

Gee Rhonda - shut up! I know that you copied most if not all of that information off of MSN as I read it there before. I certainly don't condone anyone cheating on their wife, but I will give McCain the benefit of the doubt as he was a prisoner of war and was probably tortured and as we all know, from evidence of the soldiers currently coming home from Iraqi - returning to the "normal" world is a very hard and emotional journey and one that for most will never end. Many marriages do not last for that and other reasons. Many men call their wives names, as women do the men. You can't focus on such things. Bill Clinton cheated -why aren't you bringing that up since he was on the podium himself speaking. This is a non issue. Just because someone is old, doesn't mean they are stupid, just like because one is young, doesn't mean he knows nothing. As we have all been young, the only alternative to growing old is dying and I am sure if you aren't ready to give up space on the planet for someone, neither is McCain. Age gives wisdom - youth - new ideas. So people just need to get over these two meaningless complaints. On another issue, Obama seems too good to be true and we all know the end of that line, if it seems too good to be true, then it probably is. I'm for neither of these candidates.

This is exactly what I mean, McCain supporters always make excuses for unacceptable behavior on McCain's behalf.

I cannot understand how, people not only accept the sleezy things McCain does, but even go as far as to make excuses for them.

You say I have said these things before. Indeed I have. Because these truths about McCain I point out need to be known.

So, Pfftdreamon, from your post, I am getting that because McCain was a POW, that gives him the right to cheat on his disabled first wife, to take bribes in the Keating Five scandal, and to do everything else that I pointed out in my posts (above) and which I documented as FACTS.

He was a prisoner of war. We all know and respect that, but that was 45 years ago.

What has McCain accomplished since?

Oh yeah. He voted with Bush 95% of the time.

Obviously Rhonda - you did not read my post correctly - I said I could overlook that in his case. War is hell and so are the lives of those that fight it. War changes people. Men divorce disabled women all the time, as do women. I also said it's no excuse, but also a non issue. Clinton cheated on his disabled wife, yet you keep over looking that one too. Obama is for baby killing (Late term abortion) - doesn't that bother you? Do you even know what late term abortion really is? And he thinks if one of his perfect girls gets pregnant she has ruined her life? Apparently, his wife must has ruined hers by having children and giving up her career to support his. This is all BS. I never said I was for McCain and I am not. So quit spouting your hot air and actually read, as I also didn't say that YOU had said this before, although with a long as your spewing went on, I can believe it. However, unless you work for MSN and another news web site under another name, you were NOT the person that said it, just the person that copied it and posted it here.

It is called information gathering. Notice I include the websites so people can see for themselves where I got the info.

And yes, some is my own observations, like this:

McCain wants to start a war with Iran, Korea, and Russia. Not to mention staying in Iraq "for 100 years."

He cannot do all that with an all-volunteer army.

McCain will bring back the draft.

All of you mothers with sons over the age of 14, be afraid. Be very afraid.

McCain will draft your sons into illegal and immoral wars where they will die for no reason.

Obama wants to negotiate.

McCain will "bomb bomb bomb Iran" first and ask questions later, all the while singing the beach boys Barbara Ann tune.

pfftdreamon, I have read your posts correctly and now suspect you to be a liar. It is a documented fact that Obama does not favor late term abortion. He wants it eliminated except for cases involving the life of the mother. Perhaps you are repeating someone else's lie based on his not voting for such a ban while an Illinois senator. In that legislation, republicans purposefully left out the health exception for the mother in order to score a political point, knowing that the legislation would be DOA. Now you and others like you can post your bile (baby killer? c'mon) on message boards. Bottom line is this: Barack Obama is in favor or eliminating late term abortions with the sole exception being the health of the mother. Further, he told a Christian magazine that he is not in favor of a "mental" health exception as justification for a late term abortion.

As for McCain, the facts are clear. He started seeing Cindy Hensley nine months before he left his first wife and ten months before filing for divorce from her. He got an Arizona marriage license in March 1980, ONE MONTH BEFORE his divorce was completed. He married Cindy in May. I agree with you that war damages young men, women and the families they come home to. The timeline, however, points to a simpler reason for his adultery. He preferred a younger, richer, non-crippled wife and he got one. By doing so, he married his war hero status with his father in law's wealth and power and his political career was well on its way. Perhaps he would be a long-serving senator running for president even if he had not left his first wife. But there is no doubt he has benefited greatly from his massive character cramp.

Your assessment of Obama's stance on late term abortion is a lie. Perhaps not your lie, but you are all too eager to repeat it with inflammatory language that by itself impugns your credibility. Giving you a benefit of the doubt (that perhaps you don't deserve), your position with respect to how McCain handled his married life is generous given the facts. Perhaps you didn't know the facts. Perhaps you don't care about the facts. Either way, it is your posts that are all BS.

How will he bring back the draft with a majority Dem Senate and House and considering most republicans would not vote for it anyways?

Obama is the most liberal man in the entire senate as far as McCain he is ranked in the middle. He was a pow for 5 1/2 years obviously that might change a marriage and he also has his own disabilities. Rhonda quit posting garbage you post the same crap all over the place. If Bush goes to pass a bill obviously most republicans are going to pass it, it does not surprise me that they vote a like. Do you know how many votes these people make in the senate every year they can't pass everything. What I find funny is that when it comes to African American rights Obama votes with them 100% of the time but when it comes to the Latino's and women and other ethnic groups it is a lot less.

Gee Jessicaf (Post 8.13)- How can McCain cut taxes like he is promising with a Democratic majority? Are you implying that McCain is making empty campaign promises he knows he can not keep?

Not sure where you get the idea that if a Republican President asked for a draft that Republicans would vote against it, but since it is all conjecture ... we can skip that one.

Jessicaf

You're incorrect. McCain's stances for women are abysmal. Obama created and fought and voted into law the Violence Against Women Act. He is miles ahead of McCain in that arena and will be in the future. This is important stuff. You need to read about the Act.

McCain will try to reinstate the taxes meaning that the senate would have to veto I believe and that would not be able to happen they would not have a large enough vote to veto it.

Rhonda, you REALLY need to shut your mouth before you call someone like McCain a "sleeze" (proper spelling, by the way, is "sleaze"). While McCain may have a very short temper and not have the "rock star" charisma of an Obama, he is still an American hero that deserves much more respect than you afford him.

I'm sure you have led a life that would make Mother Teresa look like a harlot, but not everyone is as virtuous and pure as you are. By the way, I find it interesting that a Democrat would use spousal infidelity as a cause to look down upon someone after your party's hero, Clinton, soiled an intern's dress and embarked upon a quest for the definition of the word "is."

You purport to expose the flaw's in McCain's plans by talking about the issues, but you, like most of your liberal ilk, simply gloss over your own candidate's/party's shortcomings while taking your opposition's comments and views out of context.

Not that I have any love for McCain as a politician, but I do know that he has the intestinal fortitude to stand up for what he believes in -- and he has proven it, unlike Obama, who has really not proven anything (other than the fact he is a liberal tool).

I doubt Obama could have survived 5 minutes as a POW, much less the 5+ years McCain endured. And yet you and your kind would call him a sleaze and spit on him given the chance. You make me sick...

If McCain's experiences as a POW are the core reasons for his emotional outbursts and lack of respect for his wives, do we really want him and his apparently permanently damaged psyche running our country? I can see it now..."It's okay if he declares war on the rest of the world. Leave him alone, cuz he was a POW, dammit!"

Walter Skinner - do NOT TELL ANYONE TO SHUT THEIR MOUTHS... it may be the republican way but not the democratic way - last I heard it was a free country to say what we wish... (this is my first point)

Secondly, McCain is NO WAR HERO - he did 32 propoganda tapes for the Vietcong AGAINST THE USA... but those tapes are now classified by the Pentagon and not available to the public because McCains Daddy had them classified... That is why his fellow prisoners called him SONGBIRD and why he had to be seperated from them for his safety.

McCains injuries are in fact related to being shot down as an incompetent pilot who flew too low during one of his few unsuccessful bombing raids... There is NO PROOF that McCain was tortured at all... in fact he was cared for by the Vietcong after his crash.

Though nobody wants to BELIEVE THE VIETNAM STORIES - HIS CAPTORS have consistently said that he was not tortured - partly because he did as he was told and produced the 32 propoganda tapes...

This man is NO WAR HERO... he did NOTHING HEROIC LIKE AUDEY MURPHY who I might like to point out was also a gay war hero... the same gay type of person the republican bash all the time...

Devils.Advocate, unfortunately I cannot agree with your statement that only republicans tell others to shut their mouths. Democrats do as well - to illustrate, see the post by royalcat and keisha 0408308. And many obama supporters did likewise to Hillary supporters.

Sauce for the goose ...

Devil you shut your mouth you are always spreading lies all over the Internet with your pro Obama drama...he will lose, BIG time so stop trying to pound every ones head with your propaganda

fed up voter - you shut YOUR mouth you are always spreading lies all over the internet with your anti Obama drama.. he will win, BIG time so stop trying to pound every ones head with YOUR propoganda...

see STUPID COMMENTS WITH NO SUBSTANCE ARE EASILY TURNED AROUND AGAINST STUPID POSTERS...

You are so unoriginal and downright unintelligent and dare I say stupid, make up your own comments if your teeny brain cannot handle it go out side and pitch marbles or something

pittsburg please show me the link to where you found his vote on this matter. As far as Obama in the Senate he hardly ever votes.
Obama's votes NV is a No Vote
Family and Children Issues
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Date Bill Title Vote Outcome
11/07/2007 Appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
HR 3043 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(56 - 37)
11/01/2007 Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (CHIP)
HR 3963 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(64 - 30)
10/23/2007 Appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies
HR 3043 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(75 - 19)
09/27/2007 State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization
HR 976 NV Concurrence Vote Passed - Senate
(67 - 29)
07/25/2006 Child Custody Protection Act
S 403 N Bill Passed - Senate

pittsburg please show me the link to where you found his vote on this matter. As far as Obama in the Senate he hardly ever votes.
Obama's votes NV is a No Vote
Housing and Property Issues
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Date Bill Title Vote Outcome
07/26/2008 Housing Bill with Energy Tax Credit Extensions
HR 3221 NV Concurrence Vote Passed - Senate
(72 - 13)
06/25/2008 Housing Foreclosure Assistance Programs
S Amdt 4983 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
(79 - 16)
05/07/2008 Optional Wind Damage Insurance
S Amdt 4719 NV Amendment Rejected - Senate
(19 - 74)
04/10/2008 Housing Bill with Energy Tax Credit Extensions
HR 3221 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(84 - 12)
04/10/2008 Energy Tax Credits Amendment
S Amdt 4419 to S Amdt 4387 to HR 3221 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
(88 - 8)
02/07/2008 Economic Stimulus Plan
HR 5140 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(81 - 16)

It is Hard to get this CHANGE when you hardly vote in the senate. He could have been doing more in the senate and if he is so driven why hasn't he?

good point Jessicaf

Rhonda-
"Obama wants to negotiate"- there are times that negotiating with terrorists is a waste of time! The true response is to neutralize the threat and quickly.

Good grief! Put away the mushroom tea! Ha ha ha! You know, it's nice to be nice and "dream" but quite frankly, while some good points were made, this seemed very flaky and is one of the very reasons people will vote another way from you. And speaking of a child's balloon - you know Obama doesn't believe in letting some children grow up to even know what a balloon is. I can't vote for a child murder. Sorry, this is an issue for me which I have repeated throughout these blogs. How a person would treat the unborn or new born is at the very heart and soul of a person, especially one that calls himself a Christian. I guess it's okay with many that Obama claims to be Christian, but supports many non-Christian values. Of course, it buys him in with the media and Hollywood. I support neither of the candidates, nor actually, any that were even in the running initially. The choices get slimmer each season. Regardless of who you vote for, they will do as all other presidents have done which is to do what they want, and support those that paid the highest fees. I also can't vote for someone who even the terrorists want to get elected. What does this tell you? Also, I couldn't give a crap about Europe or what they or the rest of the world want. Why is this such a huge issue with liberals? Such a need for friends instead of principals or morals.

pfftdreamon, the issue you bring up reveals your dream. What are you doing to pursue that dream? What can you do? Can you write to your representatives in Congress and state your concerns? Are there groups you can join with people who believe as you do? Have you asked the Obama campaign if it's true and how they might explain it? Can you bring up the subject with your pastor and ask what he or she recommends?

I know it's an issue you've brought up before, so you believe strongly in it. Who knows what you can do until you try? What if you could even change the law? What if *you* were the one who inspired the law that saved children's lives?

Maybe we don't need to spend so much time arguing and complaining about politics, but put that same time and effort toward making our dreams come true.

Just a thought!
:-D

SunnyT I totally agree! People are afraid, afraid to believe and afraid to try and actually make any difference at all with their lives. People no matter who you are voting for please go vote! If you don't like the present situation look for a better alternative, but don't... please don't sit there and do nothing. So many people have fought and died just so you can have a voice, don't throw all that away. We all need to work for a better tomorrow.

What Rhonda didn't state...not that she really had to...is that Cliff Schecter is a Democrat. Why would you use a Democrat to discredit a Republican if you are REALLY trying to make a point?

I will point you to putting "Jeremiah Wright" in Google and listening to his crap for yourself...no Republican - Democrat crap!

Obama and his wife attended for over 20 years...now you know what he and his wife believe in!

And CBS and Oprah will try to keep you thinking he is "The One! Don't listen to me...GO TO GOOGLE! Listen to Obama's best friend and mentor on video!

I have several relatives that fought in Korea,Vietnam and others. Not one came back "ho chased" and divorced his wife or abused them by calling them foul names. Hard times intensify character not diminish it. This is not a "non issue" but an indicator of an individual with a strong character trait to lie and cheat on any issue.

As much as the Republicans dogged Clinton for his "ho chasin" why are they not bashing M

McCain does not vote for any special interest type groups does not believe in affirmitive action and quotas. It is not from the position of disrespect but that in any case no person should be allowed special treatment because of their appearance. To pick someone out because of their appearance and say you need help I find condescending. I am a woman and feel as though our society has got to the point where I do not want any help I think we as woman can stand on our own and are respected enough to do so.

Anyone with a brain can see through you. Are you working on the thermo-cup or the windbreaker?

Obama is a good family man, unlike McCain, who cheated on his disabled first wife.

Obama worked his way through Harvard, and paid his own studen loan off just last year.

Obama worked as an activist in Chicago, trying to help with housing for the poor.

McCain, on the other hand, is filthy rich, so rich that he cannot even remember how many homes he owns, in this day and age of people being foreclosed upon everywhere.

McCain wears $520 shoes, and has the gall to call Obama an elitist.

McCain is also losing his memory. He thinks that Czechoslovakia is still a country, even though it has not been a country in 15 years.

McCain thinks that Iraq borders Pakistan.

And he envisions himself well versed in foreign affairs?

Can you imagine this sleezy little old dimwitted guy who has no idea what a suit and tie looks like, talking to presidents of foreign nations and representing America?

McCain adopted his 1st wifes 2 kids from a previous marriage and adopted an orphan with his 2nd wife. Him and his 2nd wife have been married for over 25 years get over it 50% of Americans get divorced who cares tired of hearing it.
When talking about Obama he has an elitist attiutde that is why he picked Biden for Vp because he is a balance to Obama. Obama talks down to people and acts like he is more intelligent than everyone. I guess when he stands like a god tonight in front of these Greek looking pillars maybe you will understand his elitist attitude and he does not come close to Martin Luther King and should not even try avoid his words and look up his actions and what he votes on. He is extremely liberal and was voted to be the most liberal person in the senate.
As far as his homes go who cares anyways, and some his wife owns who knows if they have homes in a trust etc. He married his wife in his 40's how much was he worth before then? Is it the 4 million Obama is worht in his 40's I doubt it. How much was his Father worth? The navy does not pay that well to be considered elite especially in the 1940's when his father was in it. It is obviously a respectable position but not rich.

"Obama talks down to people and acts like he is more intelligent than everyone"
Yes, we all know we don't want an intelligent president, that's why we kept Bush in power for 2 terms!
I do find it hilarious that people say he "talks down" to other people. I've listened to both candidates, and Obama gives great speaches if you actually sit and listen to them for the full 20 minutes instead of a 5 second clip on FOX news; McCain gets lost, doesn't know what he's talking about, and to be truthful, is just boring.
And let me just get this clear, so it's not ok to sound intelligent, but it is ok to be filthy rich, not care what the average American is going through, and think that drilling up Florida is the end-all solution to our economy, despite even the Bush administration saying it won't do a darn thing for 10 years (and you know they're vested, so even that's a significant understatement). Hilarious, talking about Martin Luther King, coming from someone who supports the man who on numerous occasions has voted against King's holiday.
And, to be clear on my end, Obama got the majority of his money from writing intelligent books and the significant salary given to Senators (so a single, $1mil house is easy to see how one can afford it), whereas McCain got money through lobbyists and embezzlements, and doesn't know how many properties he owns (at least 7) that are HIS totaling more than $13mil, not including rental properties BTW. McCain spends more on "servants" (apprx 250,000/yr) than he makes from his senate salary a year, so you know that money's comming from somewhere else...

Once again, Rhonda, the fact you are cerebrally challenged shines through brilliantly. I think I'd rather have a Commander-in-Chief that doesn't know what a suit and tie looks like than some fool who's never held a real job (much less one where he has to put his LIFE on the line for a cause bigger than himself).

Jessicaf - I am really curious about these Kids that McCain accepted from his first marriage and the one he adopted- WHERE ARE THEY?? WHY DONT WE HEAR FROM THEM...
just curious as I never hear any mention of them at all supporting their DADDY and I watch the news (except fox) a whole whole lot...

They are older now and most likely do not feel the need in the spotlight. Sometimes you keep your family away from that.

FXS,

Oh yee of little faith........It's o.k. I have enough faith in him for both of us.

Hey - YOU say Obama walks on water - I say MCCAIN WALLOWS IN FILTH... I.E. THE SCUMBAGS LIKE BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD AND ***ESPECIALLY*** KARL ROVE....

guess who I have decided to vote for.....

How do you do it, Devils.Advocate and RhondaRahn? How do you manage to type when you have a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other? Amazing.

Aqua surf - you are living 30 years ago when there was a Soviet Union - why not try moving into the future... its where we Democrats are headed this year...

Only idiotic morons will still drag up the old Cold War - that tired old thing ended years ago

Yeah, and how about the 84,000 that turned out tonight... overflowed the stadium... and lets see McCain cant even get 10,000 to attend his Vice-Presidential nominees dayview - in fact Its all over the news that McCains campaign is having to BUS PEOPLE IN FROM NEIGHBORING STATES to try and fill that capacity....

HAR HAR HAR... FARE THE WELL REPUBS.... CHANGE *IS* COMING.. my bet is that McCain does win ONE SINGLE STATE... because as much as the media is trying to hype this as a close race - reality speaks differently...

Lowell did you not read that the Germany crowd of 200,000 were there for a rock concert and Obama gave a 15 minute speech during the break. Cholla LOL

Yes, JFK was also inexperienced; aren't you glad we finally did later elect Nixon? It worked out amazing for everyone.

JFK and Jimmy Carter should be prime examples as to why we SHOULD NOT elect inexpierenced people to the most powerful position in the world. Anybody who says that JFK was a good president knows absolutely nothing about American history, JFK was addicted to painkillers and was a huge philanderer, he frequently balked at the issue of civil rights and could not challenge Congress to pass anything. Oh yeah, he also sent us into Vietnam. Funny how it was LBJ, a Washington insider, that gave us the Great Society which guranteed civil rights and vastly improved education. As for Carter, I dont think I have to remind anybody over 40 what Mr. Peanut did for the economy. Experience does matter, Obama has none.
PS. Nixon sent us to the moon, ended the war in Vietnam, created detente, and opened up China to the rest of the world. Not a terrible presidency, Watergate aside.

Or how about George Bush's two years of experience as the token Governor of Texas because in OUR STATE its the Luitenent Governor who has all the power - the Governor is only a figurehead...
and look what experience Georgie Boy brought to the Presidency... lies, cheats, scoundrals, treasonous back-stabbing people, has had all his original cabinet people leave in disgust...

oh yeah - and you want to point fingers at experience... oh yeah McCain - I am a POW, POW POW, BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN... another two trillion dollars down the drain to win a war that doesnt exist in a tangible form... you CANT win a war on terrorism as that is a concept in the hearts and minds of people who think we have invaded them...

And what a laugh this so called SUCCESS OF THE SURGE HAS BEEN - THE people that hate us have just moved on to Afghanistan... what dummies we are, how intelligent THEY are.. they are making us look like fools...

Our very first president, George Washington, did he have experience?

Lincoln - also just a couple of years in Congress. Was that a problem? I think not!

Well pfftdreamon, you are proof that racism is alive and well even in the 21st century.

That makes me very sad for America.

The change is *you*, StLouisMan.

What do you dream?

Make it happen!
;-)
"I'm asking you to believe ... not just in my ability to bring about real change to Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours."
Barack Obama

Topeka--

Me too! (the burgh girl (woman).

Thank you, CO/AZ!

Budget, Spending and Taxes
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2007 In 2007 Americans for Tax Reform gave Senator Obama a grade of 5.

2007 In 2007 National Taxpayers Union gave Senator Obama a grade of F.

2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Americans for Tax Reform 15 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the FreedomWorks 25 percent in 2006.

2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Taxpayers Union 16 percent in 2006.

2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Citizens for Tax Justice 100 percent in 2005-2006.

2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Tax Limitation Committee 8 percent in 2005-2006.

2005 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Americans for Tax Reform 0 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Obama supported the interests of the FreedomWorks 6 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Taxpayers Union 6 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Taxpayers for Common Sense 40 percent in 2005.

2001-2002 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Taxpayers United of Illinois 10 percent in 2001-2002.

1999 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Taxpayers United of Illinois 0 percent in 1999.

I think people get confused what is the income of a working family? Really the only ones who seem to benefit are people that make around 40,000 or less per year. What about the working families who make 90,000$ or less a year? I think everyone needs help here not just the lower class. Bush's tax cuts aim towards families and will end in 2009. One of his tax cuts was to double the deduction for children. McCain would like to increase the deduction for children even more not just for poorer familied but for everyone. Obama wants to increase the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is already insanely high. From having children at the age of 18 my current husband and I put off getting married for 5 years because as long as I grossed 4500$ a year I would recieve back 4500$ from the government requardless of what my husband was making. This goes to people that make under 32,000$ a year. There are many people who do not want to make more because they will lose their credit and other government benefits. What is the amount for working families? How much do you earn and how many hours do you have to work? There are a lot of things to consider, although it sounds nice most of his votes and policy is aimed towards the lower class.

Obama

2006 In 2006 Armenian National Committee of America gave Senator Obama a grade of B-.
2007 On the votes that the Latin America Working Group considered to be the most important in 2007, Senator Obama voted their preferred position 50 percent of the time.

2005-2006 Senator Obama supported the interests of the National Federation of Independent Business 12 percent in 2005-2006.
"NFIB's purpose is to impact public policy at the state and federal level and be a key business resource for small and independent business in America. NFIB also gives its members a power in the marketplace. By pooling the purchasing power of its 600,000 members, the National Federation of Independent Business gives members access to many business products and services at discounted costs. NFIB also provides timely information designed to help small businesses succeed."

2005 Senator Obama supported the interests of the Small Business & Entrepreneurship Council 9 percent in 2005.
"The Small Business & Entrepreneurship Council (SBE Council) works to influence legislation and policies that help to create a favorable and productive environment for small businesses and entrepreneurship. By educating policymakers, legislators, the media and the public about the critical role that small businesses play in our economy--and how government actions can positively or negatively affect the small business community--SBSC strives to establish a solid public policy foundation upon which entrepreneurial activity and small businesses can survive and flourish."

Rhonda,

You're my new "information" hero. (heroine). Thanks for the wonderful posts!

If you want real info not just what the candidate says now you should go to votesmart.org
Rhonda should not be allowed to post she utters nonsense in every room and just reposts it everywhere.

Jessicaf, you put off getting married over the taxes on $4500?

So that makes your spouse worth something less than $1000.

You are one twisted person, I pity your spouse.

Did you put off having sex, too? Probably not.

Condew no,
The earned Income tax credit goes to individuals that gross a certain amount. It is a credit not a deduction, before being rude look it up. You recieve 4,500$ back from the government. So if I can make it simpler for you I got a check for 4,500$ deposited into my bank account because I earned 4,500$ and had 2 kids to claim. When you file seperately it does not matter what your spouse or at the time boyfriend makes. He could have made 150,000$ a year and I would still get back the 4,500$ because you do not file together.

Why to go Rhonda finally someone giving examples and doucumentation instead of throwing out information without providing proof. Love it.

Obama took the gloves off which I am glad. He layed out his plans and called McSame on everything that McCain says. I really loved the speech and it was sincere. In the words of Obama. ENOUGH

In addition, the Democrats are the party that are for EVERYONE not just the select few. What a great party to be associated with.

Obama/Biden 08

Roger that Jessicaf! Rhonda works for Oprah, CBS and Barack for free so she can eventually get a break that none of the real workers in America will ever see. Responses to some of her statements are below...

Obama is a good family man, unlike McCain, who cheated on his disabled first wife. *****Obama took his two kids to "Jeremiah Wrights" racist church and got them educated the Barack way.

Obama worked his way through Harvard, and paid his own student loan off just last year. *****He's in his late 40's and he just paid it off last year...hope he doesn't handle the ecomomy this way...maybe the multi-million dollar home put a dent in his wallet?

Obama worked as an activist in Chicago, trying to help with housing for the poor. *****He wanted to get the "scum" out of his neighborhood.

McCain, on the other hand, is filthy rich, so rich that he cannot even remember how many homes he owns, in this day and age of people being foreclosed upon everywhere. *****McCain isn't rich himself, his wife is and I would suspect she handles the properties while he handles more important things.

McCain wears $520 shoes, and has the gall to call Obama an elitist.*****The pot calling the kettle black...I mean Barack!

McCain is also losing his memory. He thinks that Czechoslovakia is still a country, even though it has not been a country in 15 years.*****Many people still call the area of the Czech Republic and Slovakia, Czechoslovakia.

McCain thinks that Iraq borders Pakistan.*****Maybe he was thinking 10 years ahead?

And he envisions himself well versed in foreign affairs? *****No doubt there.

Can you imagine this sleezy little old dimwitted guy who has no idea what a suit and tie looks like, talking to presidents of foreign nations and representing America? *****Wow...such a hateful statement. McCain wears suits and ties all the time. How about this...could you imagine a man that hates whites meeting with...Russian leaders, or German leaders or British Leaders? If Barack does what he says, then I don't expect African leaders will care much for him either, although Oprah may have that somewhat covered...if you happen to be a black female! Being that his mentor and friend is also anti-Semitic, he may do well in the Islamic countries...but who cares about them at this point.

Lies. Will you like it when Obama reaches down your throat to grab you in the pocketbook? Democrats have ALWAYS BEEN TAX AND SPEND AND THEY ALWAYS WILL BE. The only change you will get with him is the few coins he MIGHT leave in your wallet. Try living on that change.

Applauding Obama for his historic achievement is not nearly as important as applauding America (at least the part represented by the democratic party). As for his ideas for change, is suggest you visit http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ and download Blueprint for Change: Obama's Plan for America. You will then be better able to credibly criticize him. I agree that whoever gets in will be faced with incredible challenges both domestically and internationally. Dealing with them will take energy, character, intelligence, temperament, communication skills, the ability to consider a range of viewpoints and decisiveness. I give McCain credit for decisiveness but hey, Bush is decisive. Unfortunately, we as a nation have been deciding to do the wrong things for 10 years (when republicans took over both houses of Congress). All the other traits are clearly in Obama's favor. Anyone who does not see that simply does not want to see. We as a nation have been rewarding incompetence for the last eight years. To me it makes absolutely no sense to reward it with four more years.

Ben,
The speech tonight will lay out specifics of what he wants to do and where he's going on the issues affecting all of us. Also, he has already outlined his plans for health care and the economy--you need to read over those.

Dwillie, I do applaud America. I will not applaud the Democratic party who brought us the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Bill ( I need a bj) and Hillary just to name a few. I do not trust politicians in general but those three have made me want to gag for years.

Each man should be judged on their individual merits, not on the projected issues of others Ben.

JoeGrinD

I agree whole-heartedly. I also think that experience should also high-light those merits. This is why I cannot in good conscience vote for Barack Obama

But Ben, it is the democratic party that has taken America one giant step forward toward Dr. King's dream with this historic nomination. President Clinton's indiscretions were and are reprehensible. You seem to forget, however, that the brain damage of his second term had everything to do with a taxpayer financed witch hunt of an Independent Counsel investigation and an impeachment proceeding over lying about sex. In spite of that, the economy was growing when Clinton left office. Unemployment was down and inflation was well in check. We had a budget surplus and we were paying down the national debt. We were far better off when Clinton left the White House than we are now. Of course, republicans said the same thing about Clinton before he took office regarding experience.

The Democratic party has not taken one giant step towards Dr. King's Dream. They are riding the coat tails of Barack Obama. He is the one who has taken the giant step towards the dream, not the party.

Regardless of your assertions, what has the democratic party done for the last four years? They promise that they would end the war in Iraq in four years, yes that was the platform four years ago. They promised a reduction in our dependence on foreign oil and lower gas prices. Our government is made up of three branches and the Democrats seem to think all the problems belong to one man, I say that all of our elected officials are out for their best interest not the best interest of the American people. You can keep Barack Obama and his socialist agenda. I will not vote for him as President

I'm with you Ben....but I believe B Obama is a hollow puppet...propped up by the old Democratic cronies.

Ben, please tell me the accomplishments of McCain and how is he SO experienced? No one seems to be able to answer that question. Please do not say because he is a POW because we have a lot of soldiers that are still fighting and that have fought for America and they are also heros. What accomplishments have McCain actually made? What experience does he have? Just curious. Just because you were in Washington for so long (which he is the worst senator in reference to voting), does not mean you have the intellect and experience to run our country. I heard something on MSNBC today that made sense. When is being intelligent a crime? Why should we down Obama for being smart and except those with a C or below education and state that they know whats better? I just dont understand. I have nothing against anyone who makes Cs because all of us have I am just saying that we should want someone that is smart and thinks about things before taking actions. Isnt this what we do in our everyday lives?

Read Rhondas comments and compare the policies of Obama and McCain and you will see who is TRULY for the American people.

Obama/Biden 08

You know what really makes me SICK AND WANNA PUKE when reading peoples posts on these blogs...
comments like "I dont believe Obama is for change" (belief is not fact)
"I know Obama is going to do this or Obama is going to do that" (what crystal ball do you look into to know the future"
"I know Obama is evil and the antichrist" (wow)

NO FACT, ONLY FICTION AND PREDICTIONS ETC. ETC.. lets look at what McCain has done for this country and his social life... that is a record of facts and not fiction...

Any woman who votes for a man who AUCTIONS HIS WIFE OFF AT A BIKERS CONVENTION, OR CALLS HIS WIFE A *C* WORD in public, is either insane or crazy or demented... etc...

I cant believe one poster had the nerve to say 50% of all marriages result in a divorce, get over it - WOW, thats certainly standing up for family values...

Devil you are an idiot pure and simple an IDIOT

Devil is my hero he knows his stuff and is wise to the paid republican blogs who spread hate and lies.

If the best come back you have is to call a poster names all I can say is that is very sad.

Almost every time he's been overheard by the press or other politicians, the language MCain is using isn't fit to print in full because it's "X" rated. And this is the kind of person some in this country want to elect to send to foreign countries to talk policy issues?

He has a filthy mouth, if I were Cindy I would left him long ago, he has something on her or she would have.

Filthy thinks as Filthy does as Filthy talks... the man is just, well, FILTHY... I look at Cindy McCain and I see a browbeaten woman that looks like she has been ridden long and hard and either bulemic or anorexic to boot...

I READ ABOUT MRS. MCCAIN and I read about a woman who FRAMED a fellow co-worker in order to steal addictive drugs.... I READ ABOUT A WOMAN who lets her husband call her the *c* word AND lets her husband put her up for auction at a bikers convention...

I see TRASH... money does not make a silk purse out of a cows ear...

I've heard worse than the things that come out of McCain's mouth...but I agree. There's a time and place for everything...for poise, for restraint, for losing tempers, dirty language...oh, and humor. I enjoy comedy, but if you're gonna be a leader, you can't take a joking approach to everything in a desperate time (Obama is like Paris Hilton. Oh haha funny. Really, what's your plan for the economy?) and expect to be taken seriously.

There are times I truly wonder what McCain's role is in this entire election. Why is he there? And I'm not asking that in a mean way or anything. I really don't hate him; I'm just curious. Is he really senile or is he playing court jester on purpose to feed this fraudulent image that he is KEWLEST. UNDERDOG. EVARRRR. Because to be honest, I'm not buying it at all. Everyone tells me he used to be a cool dude, but that seems inconsistent with the McCain I read about in the news. Everytime I see him, I wonder when he's finally going to sport the motley to go with his words.

LOL!!! This is very funny to me, simply because I didn't notice that McCain had an attitude problem until I paid close attention to him one day and one of my closest friends mentioned that her mother (who is white 71 years old and Republican) mentioned that McCain has a horrible attitude. I was howling in laughter because at a closer glance, I noticed it too!

Then, after listening to his speech last night (Obama) one of the Ruplican Analyst on CNN had a nerve to say that Obama sounded angry and his expressions were angry, HERE WE GO AGAIN! Black rage is on the scene, "black people are so angry, Michelle Obama is angry, black women are so angry, etc. etc." Bull S, McCain is angry and tempermental, he frustrates very quickly and looses his composure when someone asks him a question that he does not quite now how to approach - he tries to suppress it more often then not, but you can see the change in the lines of his face, HILARIOUS!

Yes, that's really who I want for my president, someone who when confronted with issues cannot seem to keep his composure and has a markedly angry expression that is often displayed on his face for the public.

My grandfather was a WWII veteran, god rest his soul, and yes he was stearn he wasn't overly joyful but his resting facial expression was not angry. It looks like it hurts McCain to smile, perhaps he may want to seek mental assistance surrounding his anger management problem.

Btw, let's not start the POW argument, certainly is is a factor (any altering mental condition has impact) but people have lost their lives both in this country and outside fighting wars (legitimate wars, poverty wars, etc.) but no husband of mine will come home and call me outside my name and get away with it - especially when I'm bringing home the bacon, this is unacceptable...poor Cindy.

I live in Florida xdog. I've been a Republican all my adult life (I'm 55+, white, female) until 2 days ago. I'm now a registered Democrat. The Republican party has forgoten about me for to long (I'm also middle class income) and I've had enough. GO OBAMA/BIDEN '08.

xdog--I saw that--thanks. I think Obama's tax cut for seniors is a good one---very interesting. Sure he'll work out any bugs-but just glad he's DOING something for them.
My best friend's mom and some of my friends are excited about that since PA has a very high percentage of elderly living here---thank you.